All about shrimp keeping

One of best part in shrimp keeping for me is about sharing knowledge and successes with other fellow hobbyist. The urge to share true information is fundamentally being twisted by many sellers to their advantages. However, if it wasn’t a reputable Taiwan breeder, I wouldn’t have came so far and it’s time to pay forward.

The Shrimp had gone to a good home where it is being kept by an experience hobbyist. Thank you for the support and will continue to share more knowledge when time permits. Stay tune!

There are any ways to take a good picture. I picked up photography when I was young and spent countless hours in the field taking macro photography.

Certainly it will be great if everyone can afford a DSLR a macro lens etc to get the perfect shot. However, what dictates a good photo? In my opinion a good photo is one where you can capture the moments.

In this blog post I will not be sharing how to use a DSLR to take shrimp pictures but simply using your phone and a clip on lens.

All these pictures and most of my blog post are taken by using a handphone and a clip on macro lens.

Gear :

  • iPhone 8 (or any phone)
  • Clip on lens with 12.5x magnification.

What I did realise is that setting up the area where you want to shoot is more critical than the shot itself.

  • If I want to have my shot there I will make sure that that area is clean, glass is spotless both inside and outside.
  • I will also make sure that area is the feeding area. Shrimp will know eventually that is the feeding area.
  • I prefer taking pictures horizontally so I tilt my handphone sideways.
  • When focusing tap and adjust the brightness of the photo to reduce exposure and snap away.
  • Phone camera in general uses light optics to capture image so a good strong light for focusing will be good.
  • I like taking my shrimps horizontally due to the depth of field in phones.

Focus on the head region, when The Eye is sharp and in focus that is where it is the most critical to the picture.

Very straight forward. Setting up the area and waiting for the shrimp to come into frame takes a bit of time. In general I will feed 15 mins before I take a picture so by the time I’m ready to shoot, the shrimp should be all around their food.

Keep those questions coming and I’ll blog it for you!

Cheers!

Just pointing you to this shrimp good guide will be an easy way out for this post.

https://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/gear/buyers-guides/articles/2016/7/21/the-big-shrimp-food-test

When I look through all the Brand that were tested there isn’t any from Taiwan. Didn’t most of our shrimp you keep today originated from Taiwan?

Why isn’t there any food secret being share?

Apparently there are a lot of safe guarded secrets within Taiwan but due to language barrier not many are being marketed outside and those who do are those who have a stronger command in language.

That being said what food do I use?

This is Hwa food version 1 which I have asked him to specially make it for me as it has phased out sometime ago. The reason for his newer version is the improvement in a lesser pungent smelling food.

Why did I even ask to have this specially made again ? Reason is fairly simple, his original ingredient is really good and the shrimps really devour all the good ingredients for a stronger brood in future.

A happy breeder in US! Using Hwa food.

1. Myth: shining strong light on your shrimp will make it look nicer

✓ Fact :no matter how much light you shine will not make your shrimp look better. You might as well cook it.

2. Myth: buying culls and slowly trying to breed and get good quality shrimp is achievable

✓ Fact: Good line breeding(selective breeding) is how nice shrimp traits are being pass on. The next time someone tells you that buying culls and slowly breed is trying to earn a fast one. Read up on selective breeding and you know none of the pedigrees are bred with culls.

3. Myth: A small amount of ADA Soil would be sufficient for shrimp and to be compensated by adding more bacteria

✓ Fact: a rule of thumb is that for every 16 litre of water you will need 1 litre of soil

4. Myth: Continuous culling of a Galaxy Tiger will eventually become Fancy Tiger

✓ Fact: Both are from different parentage, where a galaxy tiger has pinto gene in it whereas fancy tiger has prl/pbl in it. No matter how much culling is done, under a well trained eye, a GT will always be a GT. Walk away if they can’t openly tell you the difference. Look at their breeding tank and if there are any signs of pinto shrimplet in it or pinto gene if you are looking for FT. Alternatively, you can visit the blog link.

5. Myth: I only need 1 tank to achieve extraordinary results in shrimp breeding

✓ Fact: for selective breeding the general rule is that at least 3 tanks is required. main breeding tank, shrimplet grow up tank, grade 1 breeding tank. In general people will start with one main breeding tank with a male to female ratio of 4:20. This will generate higher success rate as the probability of all males molting at the same time is greatly reduced. This main breeding tank will keep generating shrimplet to be remove to the shrimplet grow up tank when they are 0.8cm. Once there is a good selection of male and female (1M 5F) that exceed expectation,they should be placed in the grade 1 breeding tank to continue the line. The grade 1 breeding tank and main breeding tank will continue to have more and more shrimplet to be placed in the shrimplet tank. The main breeding tank adults will not mix with the grade 1 breeding tank as the grade 1 breeding tank is to refine the excellent line, even better. If you have an additional tank (tank 4) this will greatly help to split the shrimplet male from female at a younger age to prevent unnecessary dilution of gene amongst the shrimplet.

Some of you have asked me to share about my breeding tank setup. It really is pretty straight forward.

Picture worth a thousand words.

I learn from Taiwanese breeder on the setup and modified a little but in general works the same. Here is a picture showing one of the most reputable Taiwanese breeder.

Pretty simple? Yes it really is pretty simple.

  • Tank dimension :60 x 45 x 38
  • Litres: 102
  • Thickness of glass 6mm
  • Ugf Glass partition height : 9cm
  • Sponge above ugf before soil is being laid on top
  • Soil : 6litres of ADA (1litre soil : 16litre water)
  • Soil 1cm in front
  • Ugf powered by hang on canister (totto and ehiem with powerhouse filter media)
  • sponge filter (optional)
  • Taiwan moss weighted down by large filter media
  • Temp 24-25
  • Chiller : Artica 1/4hp (up to 900+litres)
  • Water change: weekly 10%
  • Tds 80-90
  • pH:5.8
  • KH 0-2
  • GH 4

Food:

  • Spinach
  • Hwa shrimp food version 1. (There is version 3 but I prefer the version one which is limited edition)
  • Bloodworm (still holding back)

New post right after Chinese New Year. For those who have been requesting me to write on some topics. These are for you.

Sharing some of the black fancy tiger picture with you.

Is the shrimp price bubble that will burst eventually. This blog post will be about the dark secrecy that underline prices peak period.

Have you wonder why are some prices of shrimp so high whereas some are Low? Actually this is all relative. When a new selective bred shrimp is new it often command a high price and after about 2 years the price will fall.

Take in the case of black King Kong, when it was firstly available in the market they are priced very high but because it is fairly easy to stablize the prices plummeted crazily over a short period of 1 year. Different shrimp have a different price cycle where it goes from high to Low.

There are some shrimp until today still command high prices because of the difficulty to get good graded quality due to instability of the breed.

The dark secret of some hobbyist who sell shrimp to fellow hobbyist is to prey on your new venture into shrimp hobby. They know that you have little knowledge and they will brainwash you and inflate the prices. Such behaviour is highly disregarded and totally lacking of integrity. They will tell you anything and everything despite their little knowledge. Shrimp keeping hobby started in Japan but in my opinion perfected in Taiwan. Some hobbyist continue to con newbies by creating groups to sell them their shrimp and wares without having sufficient knowledge learn from the source. This result in degradation of the shrimp keeping hobby. The degrading of knowledge twisting facts to sell their shrimp.

One example is that you can get graded shrimp from culls. Another example is that PRL will breed out Snow White. These are the very notion that created confusion and degradation of knowledge. Pure red line is term pure for a reason, whoever claim that Snow White is the end result of PRL has totally no idea of what they are talking about. If culls can get graded shrimp, it will be heavily guarded by breeders themselves.

Another example is the following.

This was sold to me by a Local hobbyist who at that time had 3 years of experience. He sold it to me as a black fancy tiger at an extravagant price due to my lack of knowledge and my weakness to trust. However, through this ordeal the “friendship” is only worth as much as the shrimp. It was after a year I realise he continue to prey on newbies and taught them poor shrimp keeping methods. How did I find out? It was through connection from FB that they shared their frustration with me.

This was sent to me from an irate hobbyist frustrated over his nonsense. Names are edited out to protect their identity but would leave the person who continue to prey on newbies. Caveat emptor. Buyer beware. Should a journey of fun and learning become derailed by someone unscrupulous is worth sharing with the community as we continue to stand tall to sellers who lack integrity.

Circling back to the topic, price is a tricky topic to discuss and only through examples highlighted above will hobbyist know that there are many dark secret behind it. Black fancy tiger pricing has been quite high for graded ones and the prices for BFT in Taiwan dollars:

  1. Grade 1: 100,000 twd per pair
  2. Grade 2: 70,000 twd per pair
  3. Grade 3: 50,000 twd per pair

Some of the reasons for the high pricing is due to the difficult in breeding quality graded ones even after such a Long time.

This is a grade 1 male.

Happy Chinese New Year!

Should there be other questions on pricing etc feel free to leave a comment or look me up in FB.

Keep those request coming and I’ll blog it for you.

This section will discuss on grading Particularly the black fancy tiger but can generally use it as a methodology for grading. One of the reasons for sharing this article really is about how grading is done from a judge and seller perspective. I am honoured to have a judge and seller share with me on this.

Let us start with having the very best. Black fancy tiger grade 1.

Let’s look at where it has been circle.

Green circle denote a coloured rostrum indicating that Color is present. This is sometimes missed out by hobbyist and can easily be downgraded to grade 2

Blue circle denote spider leg or legs with Color. A black fancy with spider leg is highly sought after.

Orange circle denotes the three white spots against the black shell gives a 50:50 balance between white and black.

Grey circle denotes the black backbone area where it continue to provide a 50:50 black and white to the overall shrimp appearance.

Now that all the circles has been discussed, let’s look at the overall shrimp, it doesn’t have any transparent in the shell which makes it either a grade 1-2. However, what make this a grade 1 shrimp is due to the fact that it has all the above qualities with strong stripe marking and no transparency.

2nd grade : female

There are two kinds of 2nd grade for BFT, one of it have very nice stripes and the other have no transparency in the shell. This is the main difference between grade 1 and 2. Grade 1 have all the strong characteristic whereas grade 2 is short of one of those characteristic.

As you can see here that the stripes on this shrimp is considered full but it is lacking in fullness of colors. The black area isn’t black enough on the front part of the head and belly area make the shrimp appear a little patchy. This however is already considered a high grade shrimp where you can use this kind of female to breed out grade 1-2 shrimplets.

3rd grade: female

Reason why this is a 3rd grade female is due to lesser stripes on the last two line. It didn’t connect towards the top. However the face pattern and front portion is at least a grade 2 type. The black to white ratio is 40:60 hence it has dropped its grade from 2-3. This however is very subjective as the shrimp May become a 2nd grade in future after molting as this is still consider a young shrimp. I’m using ADA powder soil so shrimp may appear to look bigger. On the same shrimp the other side of the pattern does consist of transparent areas under the belly which is one of the most difficult areas to work on. On one side it’s grade 2 on the other side is grade 3 but to err on a safer side I will grade this as 3 instead of 2.

Gene shrimp:

These are shrimp that is use for breeding masses to increase female quantity for selective breeding. As you can see that the stripe pattern and transparency is obvious.

now that the brief understanding of grading is being laid out here is a picture of the grade 1-3 and the last one gene shrimp.

You can now clearly tell the differences between the grades.

The master has spoken

What is the key to success in breeding these black fancy? Can we attribute to luck and close our eyes to randomly breed hoping something good may appear?

In line breeding, luck plays a small part. So what is the critical success factors?

There are many ways to achieve quality black fancy tiger and below is a few elements that will increase the probability:

  1. Good genetic shrimps (top appearance)
  2. Sex ratio 1M:7F, 2M:14F,3M:18F
  3. Stringent culling (13% keep rate or 2 pairs @ first grade, 6% keep rate or 1 pair for 2nd grade shrimps, 3% keep rate or 1 shrimp for 3rd grade shrimps)
  4. Be responsible and not dilute the gene by selling non-graded shrimp as graded
  5. Know your source (ask tough questions)
    Does the seller know how to differentiate between a shrimp with galaxy or pinto gene in fancy tiger
    Can the seller show you his step by step shrimp in his breeding room how it was created
    Does the seller have documents or article when he make claims of how it was done. If yes good if not maybe a reference to the article from the original breeder will be handy

With the above (not exhaustive) list, you should be able to steer towards the right direction. Often breeders would want a cheaper alternative and faster approach but this is line breeding, it takes time and a lot of trial and error. If you are looking for a faster approach, you will need to pay the price the breeder took to create or stabilise the line and the years it took.

Let us dig a little deeper to understand what goes behind the scene when breeding black fancy tigers.

According to the Taiwan shrimp book, there is a short paragraph mentioning about a reputable breeder who did a test between pure black line female x red tiger male and red tiger female x pure black line male. The results were astonishing as the output of the first cross PBL female x red tiger male has high success rate of getting the black fancy tiger.

Line breeding start after the F1 shrimplet begin to show sign of success and to get few better gene F1 to cross back to the parent. After many generations the gene strengthen to develop into the renowned black fancy tiger.

Are there variations?

Certainly, in the gene pool if the breeder do not cull their shrimps many variations may occur. One such variation is the white fancy tiger.

White fancy tiger?

It really is a washed out cross between the PBL and tiger whereby the lines are disappearing and also the hino or Sabre tooth PBL marking is gone.

As you can see from the above picture, the shrimplets from this female has a very high percentage of white fancy when bred with a similar male. Is this the outcome you are trying to achieve? There are breeders “marketing” this as mosura fancy tiger. Personally I think that depending on which variant or outcome you would like, you can breed it to your liking.

  • For example if using a “white fancy ” cross with a “black fancy” chances are you will get a split between the both and 25% chance of a cross that will look like the black fancy. This is how it work in general:
    1. 25% of the outcome will be black fancy
      25% of the outcome will be white fancy
      25% of the outcome will be mix (black and white fancy)
      25% of the outcome will be mix (white and black fancy)

    This is in a very simple form of understanding of breeding but of cause in reality there is slight variations to it.

    Coming back to variations, it is becoming difficult to ignore the fact that breeders (not commercial) who are in the know will share with you the outcome when they sell you the shrimp. If they are unable or trying to make a fast one, walk away. There are many reputable breeders who are more than willing to share.

    Additionally, there are “black fancy tiger” lookalike but has pinto gene in it. The reason for doing so is to reduce the time to get the “black fancy”. However, with this the outcome of it will look like a black fancy but isn’t.

    This picture is taken from a breeder and it does look like a black fancy, but the price is many times lower than black fancy because the shrimplets are more stable unlike the original. How do you even differentiate a lookalike black fancy and the original?

    There will come a time where the difference could be difficult to discern but for now a few tell tale sign is that a pbl and tiger cross would have :

    • Hino or pbl pattern on the top
    • Black and white colors
    • Pinto will give off very white kind of shrimplet and is very stable
    • GT will have a vertical bar on the head
    • Degree of black differs between GT, Pinto and PBL/BFT
  • Now you can see the difference.
  • A warm invite to visit an overseas home breeder in Germany is really exciting. The thoughts of having to see the Number of tanks is like sending a kid into a candy store.

    Turkish coffee with the newly acquired friends!

    The boss catching shrimps! 

    the wall of fame where overseas guest sign their name on the back of the door. Overall it has been a really good experience for me to learn from different breeders in various countries.

    What i have learnt from them really is their hospitality that anywhere in the world you visit as long as you have the same hobby, it is easy to connect. We spent a full day discussing mostly shrimp stuff and how to be better. It is my honor to have met David and Kuzey, and to share the passion of shrimps half way round the globe is intriguing and exhilarating. Different products was used in their part of the world with local brands difficult for other country to enter due to EU regulations. They do have a special ‘fly’ liquid to mimic the female breeding hormone that make the males ‘fly’.

    Additionally, their shrimps are kept in TDS at 160 and above which is very high considering that in Asia we keep them at 100-120 range. Overall a very good trip and will certainly meet them again if i am back in Germany.